Dominating Hands
I think the most consistently strange trend I’ve noticed on Full Tilt Poker is how when two hands get all-in heads up, and one is dominating the other (ie: the hands share one similar card, and one dominates the other like AK vs AQ or KQ vs QJ), the dominated hand ALWAYS wins. I’ve been keeping track of this for about 2 weeks now, hands I’m in and hands I’m just observing, and so far out of 19 instances where both players got all in before the flop and one was dominated, the dominated hand somehow hit their kicker or made a straight or flush or some other variation.
This kind of blows my mind.
Even in the tournaments this is happening. What would an online site have to gain from quick bust outs in a tournament?
The faster they end the tournament, the faster you buy in to another.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist, but something is just plain wrong here.
Tonight will mark my return to cash game play after about a month. Hopefully I’ll have something good to talk about.
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9 opinions for Dominating Hands
Jereme
Jan 10, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I am not a conspiracy theorist either. On the otherhand, I am very distrustful especially when millions of dollars are involved.
i also know a bit about encryption, random seeding, algorithms, etc.
I do believe they have set it up on purpose.
Action hands means action play. That is what people want right?
Especially new to intermediate players who may not fully understand odds.
I would love to see an internal audit of the math behind the “random” card shuffle/deal.
I think we would have a class action law suit with most all of the poker sites being closed down.
Full Tilt is definitely one of the worst offenders though.
this is why I (try to) stay away from online poker when serious money is concerned.
Blake
Jan 10, 2008 at 5:25 pm
an audit of the math would be very interesting. i wonder if there’s ever been serious consideration of a class action. hm.
playdrunk
Jan 10, 2008 at 10:35 pm
dude…stop being a paranoid, there is no way full tilt or pokerstars are rigged.
Blake
Jan 11, 2008 at 5:16 am
yep, you’re right. it’s completely out of the question.
johnny
Jan 11, 2008 at 5:24 am
why would they risk it? they are going to make money either way, they might as well run a legit site and keep raking in the money as opposed to running a rigged site and risk being shut down or lose customers.
Blake
Jan 11, 2008 at 4:03 pm
yes, that is the main argument people use against it.
however, ‘why would they risk it’ is not sufficient argument for me to believe it doesn’t happen.
i’m not saying it does happen, i’d just be interested to see the actual math behind it.
Betfair Poker Player
Jan 15, 2008 at 4:50 am
It is also rare to see a desperate late last lunge by a short-stacked player beat a bigger stacked opponent online. They tend to get busted always by the river card. I love conspiracies.
Peter
Feb 10, 2008 at 1:42 pm
I just got knocked out of a tourny with AK suited against AQ. I was gutted being only a few people away from the money, but when i looked it up, the AQ is going to win 1 in every 4 times. 25%. Thats not the worst odds ever, specially against a smaller stack, so please dont get riled on the site is biased, they just produce results that we dont like. How many times have you overtaken with a lesser pair. It’s just poker, and i have not been to a site where they didnt complain about it. Sometimes its your turn to lose.
Josh
Apr 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm
I have lost 10 out of the last 11 hands where i was a 75 to 95 percent favorite either preflop or after the flop. Everytime the money was in the middle (all in) when I was ahead, and I either lost on the turn or the river. It has gotten so bad that I expect their card to come instead of expecting my dominating hand to hold up. Even as I was typing this I was short stacked and pushed with Ace 10, only to be called by AK. Well Ace 10 comes on the flop, so I’m thinking - Wow, I finally sucked out on someone else!…. until the king comes on the turn. Then I was just playing heads up and lost 3 out of 4 hands I was 60 percent or more favorite to win and of course went on to lose the tourney because my pair of tens lost to a running 4 flush with his pocket 77s. I don’t know how to deal with this. It’s like someone posted, the good players keep playing because they think the odds are going to prove true at some point, but I’m beginning to wonder if they ever are. Maybe it is true, the lesser players need an advantage so they will win some of the time and therefore not scare them away completely.
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